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Post by blaze06 on Jul 20, 2007 4:27:36 GMT -5
Miami gets: Lamar Odom Andrew Bynum Ricky Davis #40 and #48 in 2007 draft
Minnesota gets: Jason Williams Antione Walker #20 in 2007 draft Jordan Farmer future first round pick from LA in 2008 draft
Los Angeles gets: Kevin Garnett #7 in 2007 draft #39 in 2007 draft
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Post by blaze06 on Jul 20, 2007 4:28:24 GMT -5
Miami accepts
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Post by ramos07 on Jul 20, 2007 4:29:01 GMT -5
i accept
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Post by arod022 on Jul 20, 2007 4:30:42 GMT -5
I approved
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Post by Miege22 on Jul 20, 2007 4:47:12 GMT -5
Ok, this is an absolute no right now. For this to go through, one of two things has to happen:
1. Minnesota has to keep the 7th pick. There is no way in hell LA is getting KG plus #7. I dont know if anyone realizes, but that would give him #2, #7, KG, and Ray Allen. Sorry, but we got to keep this as even as possible. Moreover, you are ripping off the T-wolves. Ramos, why would you make a deal in which you give a HOFer, a lotto pick, and a good numbers guy, for the crap you would be getting back? So my suggestion is, Minnesota keeps #7. It would help more if Minnesota got no picks out of this deal.
2. Minnesota gets Shaq. That is the only way this goes through other than keeping #7.
And if you guys think I am the only one, I have talked to other mods about this trade and all of them have said it would be an easy 'no' right now.
Make one of those changes and we will see what happens.
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Post by Obsidian on Jul 20, 2007 4:48:42 GMT -5
Ok, this is an absolute no right now. For this to go through, one of two things has to happen: 1. Minnesota has to keep the 7th pick. There is no way in hell LA is getting KG plus #7. I dont know if anyone realizes, but that would give him #2, #7, KG, and Ray Allen. Sorry, but we got to keep this as even as possible. Moreover, you are ripping off the T-wolves. Ramos, why would you make a deal in which you give a HOFer, a lotto pick, and a good numbers guy, for the crap you would be getting back? So my suggestion is, Minnesota keeps #7. It would help more if Minnesota got no picks out of this deal. 2. Minnesota gets Shaq. That is the only way this goes through other than keeping #7. And if you guys think I am the only one, I have talked to other mods about this trade and all of them have said it would be an easy 'no' right now. Make one of those changes and we will see what happens. amen!!!
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Post by rien2244 on Jul 20, 2007 4:50:40 GMT -5
Ive spent a solid 10 minutes trying to figure this out. and i cant do it. Ramos, why the HELL are you taking this??? Giving up a SUPERSTAR, a top 10 pick, your second best player, and your second round pick for what? Jason Williams- old, overpaid, injury prone, close to retirement. Antoine Walker-Old, Overpaid, also close to being done. Jordan Farmar- a project point guard who has been replaced by Derek Fisher and Javaris Crittenton #20 pick. Its not like you couldnt have gotten anything better. This is almost surreal. I cant find a single positive. Youre not saving money, youre not getting younger, youre not getting better in the future. WHAT ARE YOU GETTING?!?!?! This almost makes me think you and Arod are the same person, he gets everything, and the second i said i would need something he was supposed to get i get ignored. If this has any chance of going through we're gonna need a good explanation because this is just a mess.
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Post by rien2244 on Jul 20, 2007 5:04:11 GMT -5
"Kevin Garnett is tradeable but i want either a top ten pick and a top superstar in return.... i will listen to all offer before i decide what i want to do.... also willing to involve up to three teams if it required..."
you're getting neither of those. the 2008 pick you will recieve if this trade goes through will be at the bottom of the draft.
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Post by ramos07 on Jul 20, 2007 5:07:36 GMT -5
Ok for thoses who what to kno why I did approve this two reason. One I did it for cap space and to drop the biggest contract I have. Second reason is that me and arod knew it wasn't going to get approved so I pm him back and re work the deal that involved shaq and allen but miami denied it. The reason I hit arod back up was because after I sat and thought about this deal I did realize I was giving up to much and getting some players that had nothing left in them.... And me and arod aren't the same person I just made a mistake approving this deal without really thinking about it frist.
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Post by Obsidian on Jul 20, 2007 5:12:49 GMT -5
why not just toss allen in on your side. then Miami shouldn't need to decline it as they are still getting quality players and you wouldn't be getting shafted as bad?
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Post by rien2244 on Jul 20, 2007 5:15:40 GMT -5
well lets not clog this thread with more discussions. As-Is this trade is declined by myself and Meige. If you're able to work out another deal then post it in another thread AFTER this one is resolved.
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Post by arod022 on Jul 20, 2007 5:15:55 GMT -5
we are try to but the heat wont accept it here take a look at the new deal...
Mia gets: Byunm, odom, Rick Davis , and two second rounder
Minn get: Allen, Shaq, j. williams, 20th, farmer and la 08 frist round pick
Lakers get; Kg, 7th pick, 39th, and Walker (via mia)
blaze dont want to give up shaq and the 20th
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Post by Miege22 on Jul 20, 2007 5:32:05 GMT -5
This is going to get denied anyway, plus it is being reworked, so I am going to move this thread and lock it up.
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